A lot of times when I sit down to start, I'll tap into my phone and I’ll have a bunch of voice memos of ideas that have hit me randomly. How do you start writing a song?’ So I had him over at the studio. “My brother said, ‘Hey, I just want you to show me, from the beginning, how you start a record. Can I shape this? Is this something I can turn around?” The song is trying to work that through and trying to figure out if that’s someone that I was born to be. I think that everyone has those moments where they feel like they choked. I think for me, with certain friendships and relationships, there were moments that I could have risen to the occasion and I didn't, and that's something that I'll have to live with. “I come from a basketball background, and choking is: You’re standing at the free-throw line and you need to make one of those two, and if you miss them both, you choked. Everything's great, I don't even know why you're asking me.’ Making them feel stupid, like, ‘Why would you even ask me that?’ That's what this song is.” I would probably go through a period in the mourning process where my reaction to anyone asking me how I'm doing would be like, ‘I'm fine. If you really listen to the song, it's so upbeat and shiny on the surface, and then lyrically I'm talking about trying to cope with the idea of if I were to ever lose my family and friends. “I designed it to feel like something was coming to life. “I wanted to escape a little bit more and provide people with that opportunity to escape too.” Here, Joseph takes us inside some of the album’s key tracks. “It felt like I needed to go the opposite direction,” he says. “The idea of adding to the pressure of what's going on in our world, it didn't feel right.” Instead, Scaled and Icy finds Joseph pushing his genre-defying alt-pop into brighter, more hopeful territory. “I was actively trying to push against that natural inclination to come in darker,” he says. That dragon on the cover really represents what can be accomplished with that sort of imagination.”Īnd as has been the case for everyone, the challenges of pandemic living had a noticeable impact on Joseph’s work-but maybe not quite how you’d expect. “I had this little dragon figurine that I kept on my desk during the entirety of the writing process, and I just knew that when you focus on even the tiniest little detail in your room-or wherever you're confined-that thing can come to life and fly around your room. “It just felt very confined,” he tells Apple Music. The title of twenty one pilots’ sixth LP is a play on “scaled back and isolated,” words that summed up frontman Tyler Joseph’s world as he wrote and recorded in his Ohio basement during lockdown.
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